The Bounce Rate Podcast

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Brown isn’t coming in a delorean to save

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you you’re on your own in the timeline you are stranded in

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you may be living in the past present or

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future but if there’s any lesson that those three movies taught

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us is that the only that it’s only the

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present that counts i think that’s very true today

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we’re talking about um the differences between

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thinking about the future living in the present and thinking about or living

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in the past or thinking in the I like I like how about reflecting on the past

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reflecting on the past living in the present living in the and imagining the

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future imagining what’s going to go on in the future.

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Welcome. How are y’all living today? Are you living in the present today?

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I feel connected to the present right now.

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Did you do an exercise to get you there? No. You know what? My exercise,

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I got a lot of sleep last night. It was good exercise.

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Had some laughs last night watching Family Guy with my son. So I don’t know. I feel good.

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Do you have something on the horizon for the weekend?

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Yes. I’ve got an amazing show to go to Friday night. Oh, that’s a whole different story.

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Other than that, no. It’s a pretty boring-looking weekend. Smart. I like the…

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I’ll admit, I have not seen the third Back to the Future movie.

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Yeah. So you saw the good one, the original.

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The first. Yeah. Then you saw the horrible one. You can bring up the average by seeing the third.

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Back to the Future 2 was terrible. Really? You didn’t see it?

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Oh, no. I saw it too. It was just trying to be over the top.

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I mean, not terrible. Terrible is the wrong word.

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It was what most sequels are, which was just a rehash and pretty weak.

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Yeah. I mean, I feel like a movie like Back to the Future, it was going to be hard.

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There was so much expectation. It was going to be hard to make a good sequel

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because it was such a classic.

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I mean, that movie was awesome. Well, it’s interesting because,

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you know, the first one, he spent all the movie back in the 50s.

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Then in the second one, it’s more jumping around and changing back because they’re

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like, oh, let’s play with time.

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That worked. We didn’t do that last time. Let’s do a lot more.

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And third one, it’s again back

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to one time zone because sort of proves our point living in the present.

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That’s when it’s interesting. It’s not jumping around back and forth and going

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around the second movie. It makes for a bad movie.

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It’s where wherever Marty McFly is at that very moment.

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And that’s the story. That’s the interesting. I was looking,

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I was thinking about movies. I don’t know why. We are definitely a movie podcast, I think.

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Close. If movies would like us to host our podcast at a movie theater,

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movies can reach out to us at whatever number we use. During the movie. Yeah.

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But I was thinking, so what are some of the biggest time travel movies that you can think of?

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I have a handful that I like. My favorite one is called Primer. Anyone see Primer? No.

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Primer was this indie movie that they made in the early 2000s that is,

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in my opinion, the most realistic depiction of what…

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Time travel would be because it had a micro budget but

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it’s very good independent film if you ever want to

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see it i mean obviously tenet you

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know yeah that you’re right i didn’t think about that that’s got

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some time travel and the the the

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time travel in that movie are very different than the that in

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bill and ted’s i was gonna say bill and ted yes yes

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i was that’s the that was the one that came to mind yeah

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what about encino man is that is that time travel or no

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that’s not time travel that’s it kind of jumps to the future yeah

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he’s frozen it’s one way yeah it was

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all in that same time he’s einsteinian yeah time is only one way i can’t think

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of any other off the top of my head terminator oh yeah certainly gotta do terminator

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uh interstellar has time stuff in it the uh good movie the warping and then

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of course the marvel the infinity or uh game in game oh Oh, that was good.

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And then one of my personal all-time favorite movies, Groundhog Day.

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That, sure. Well, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it’s on a short time,

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24 hours, but you get to relive it over and over and over again.

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Talk about a guy living in the present. Yeah, that’s a fun movie.

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What about Doctor Who? Would that be time travel? Oh, my God,

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yes. That’s the whole thing, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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He is a time lord. But he’s inter-dimensionally as well. I don’t know.

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I don’t feel like you’re as steeped in your Doctor Who lore as you are in Star

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Wars and Star Trek. Oh, I need to follow.

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I watched it in college, but I…

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Done. You have not watched the David Tennant Matt Smith?

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I stopped in the middle of Peter Capaldi.

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Oh my God, you have so much exciting television ahead of you.

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It kept being okay? Oh, it, no it’s, I’m not gonna say anything more.

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Oh, last one, it wasn’t a movie, it was a series God, it just came out and it’s about a guy.

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He is, there’s all these dimensions and he built like a,

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every good morning no machine that it’s a it’s like

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a real show there was a book god now i can’t remember the name of

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it sorry if it comes to me i will learn it

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out by the end of this episode yeah we’re gonna figure out what

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this thing is or maybe future james will come back

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and tell you that’d be handy well would y’all

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like to talk about the past so so yeah what are we what are we hitting on here

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in the in our episode talking about it’s about perspectives which i think is

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a really interesting take on all this is your perspective of the past, present, and future.

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Yeah, I’ll say this. I am guilty of when I’m alone with my thoughts,

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thinking of the past and kind of cringing and being like, ugh,

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that did not go the way that I wanted it to go.

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And it’s not at all a helpful mental response because it already happened. There’s no point in it.

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And then you can say, well, you can learn to do better.

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But that doesn’t change the fact that dwelling on the past is not productive most of the time.

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Now, that’s either a good and bad.

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You don’t want to dwell on the award you won in high school and think about, oh.

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Had so much potential versus just doing the thing right then and there.

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So you don’t want to dwell on the negative and you don’t want to dwell on the positive.

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But at the same time, the past did make us who we are and we do our learning

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from experience in the past.

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So I think it’s a tricky relationship that we have as humans with thinking about

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things that have already happened. Well, I got in a big argument with a buddy

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a couple of months ago, and this guy lives completely in the present, right?

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Like too much in the present. So much that all decisions are made to benefit

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him today. Does not care about the future at all.

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How does that play out? I’m curious what that looks like. Give me an example.

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I mean, you know. Because you’re basically saying he’s eschewing or he is not

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looking at long-term rewards at all.

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It is all short-term rewards. I mean, that’s kind of like an addict, right?

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Yes, very much so. Yeah. So he very much has an addictive personality.

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Might be addicted to a few things. Is this around his finances or how he treats people?

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I mean, pretty much everything. Really? Yeah. I mean, seriously,

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he has his own business. And so the way he runs his business,

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the way he consumes supplements out there in the world.

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He’s all about, I want to feel good right now. So whatever that takes,

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finances, like, hey, I mean, literally he’d be like, tomorrow, who knows?

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I’m living today. Okay, without giving personally identifiable information,

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I really need to hear a story about this guy.

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Where has he gotten in trouble?

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Or has it basically worked? I mean, it depends on what you, you know,

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for him it’s worked, right?

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Because he’s living the life he’s fine with.

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I think for most people, you wouldn’t be satisfied with the life. It’s chaotic.

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Well, I mean, there’s not much, I mean, there’s enough business success to sustain

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him, right? But there’s no savings.

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There’s not a nice house. There’s not a nice card. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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So like, so he has still, he has yet to reap what he’s sown.

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Yes. Which for him, he’s like, I don’t care. Right. As long as I’m got a car

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and I have a roof on my head.

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And maybe the meteor is going to come and take us all out in 10 years.

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And what difference will, but I’ll be really glad I had that chocolate cake today.

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Yeah. And we literally, I’m like, and this is a surfing buddy from,

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you know, we’re different people, but surfing has been our bond. Right.

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So like you have things like that, that just, I think like when you have a bond

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like that with somebody, it’s cool because you’re not going to be the same people

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that you’re hanging out with. You’re different personalities, right?

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But you were in a time travel movie called Surfing Brown Water.

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Did time travel, but we surfed some brown water here in Texas.

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But so, yeah, he was he’s all about the now. And I was kind of like,

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dude, you’ve got to, like, look at the future, man.

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Like, you’ve got to like, like, you know, start saving some money or make,

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you know, some of your decisions have to make your you know,

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my wife says this to my kids all the all the time.

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She says, be nice to your tomorrow self or your future self.

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Does it make sense? Like if you prep tonight, then tomorrow is going to be better.

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You know what I mean? I don’t know.

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If this person were doing some, like, let’s suppose they just set up a plan

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that they didn’t have to think about.

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You know, I’m going to take 5% of my income, 10%, whatever, of my income.

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It’s going to go into an index fund, right? So I don’t have to think about it.

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It’s just there. It’s just going off. That happens automatically.

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So that he could have financial stability and have some sort of plan for it.

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If he had that, just that one piece, so that that piece was taken care of,

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how would you compare his perspective on life versus, I know you’re a pretty high-strung guy.

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I mean, I think, yeah, if he had something like that, I think you feel safer,

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right? Like at least you have some plan for the future.

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You’re not completely going blind, right?

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So I think that would be a really good thing. Yeah. But I’m,

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I, what I’m saying is like, is that the real difference between having, do you,

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in some ways, I guess here’s my question really is in some ways,

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do you admire his perspective? I do.

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I really do. Like, and the ability to block it all out and just be like,

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no, this is my way. This is the way. Don’t they say that?

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This is the way like does not care.

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I mean, that, Honestly, it’s pretty impressive because there’s a lot of things

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that you can worry about in the future, which is not promised to us. You know what I mean?

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So I hate to break the news to you, but in a couple hundred billion years,

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there’s going to be a heat death of our solar system.

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That is something I think about all the time. It really bothers me.

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You know, what’s funny is when I was, and I think this is shared with other, at least millennials.

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I remember I was in like the second grade and they explained that one day our

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sun would expand and consume all the planets in the solar system.

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And there was like there was an image of Earth just completely scorched.

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And I looked around and I was like, is it is nobody else worried about this?

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And then they’re like, oh, don’t worry. This is going to happen long,

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long after we’re all dead. And I’m like, we’re all going to die.

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It’s kind of like they were talking about how like the, the earth is like getting

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off access and eventually it’s going to flip. They say, right.

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The magnetic poles, the magnetic poles.

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I’m like, that sounds horrible. Like how, like I heard that and I was like, this is freaking me out.

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I know. But, but see, this is where you’re not looking at the opportunity as

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an influencer. You can sell beads.

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Keep your magnetic aura in the right

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place see this is a huge business opportunity

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but i guess i guess my point is on a

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big enough timeline there’s no it becomes nihilism

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you know well there so asma isaac asimov i

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recently this story just came up he

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wrote this i think in the 50s it’s called the last question and

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he addressed that very thing because humans were

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building the supercomputer and the last question is

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what happens at the end of the universe and the

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supercomputer says i’m working on it but i

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don’t have enough information well like millennium go by

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and the new super evolved humans that have

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like conquered the galaxy asked the same question

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but the computer has expanded and demar says i don’t

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have enough information and it keeps going and going and you

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know the the to where humans integrate as beings

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of light into the machine itself and it’s

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literally the heat death all the all the huge

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stars and the the giants and so forth

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have already gone they’re down to like just a couple of the

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dwarfs that stars that are left and they’re about to go out and they ask the

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question still not enough information and then just in the last milliseconds

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before the last of the heat depth happens the machine which is now fully integrated

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with all of humanity and all this life force and so forth says.

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Oh, I know, let there be light.

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So it turned into… Starts the whole thing over again. Oh, I see. Yeah.

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Because there is that theory of the universe that depending on whether we’re

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an ever expanding universe or one that is not, or we can be at an equilibrium

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where we’ll find a point where we stop or we expand and then re-collapse to

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the Big Bang again. Yeah.

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So, things we will never know. It sucks we can’t watch that.

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Right? Right. Well, you can’t be outside the universe, turns out.

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James, the movie or the show that you’re thinking of, is it a comedy or like

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a drama? No, no. It’s like a drama. I mean, typical.

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And it’s a guy with an interdimensional.

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Yeah, he builds this box that he can go in and like he’s a scientist and figures

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these things out, like gives himself an injection and then he can go to different dimensions.

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It’s a great book. I read the book, too. it’s out now yeah

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it came out about a year ago a show it’s a show

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yeah what yeah i’m

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normally really good at figuring out shows and i’ve got no idea oh okay interdimensional

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box where a guy gives himself injections so they can go to different yeah and

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each door they open in this box like opens into a different version of the world

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quantum leap uh no that’s not it but I don’t know. Anyways.

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But I guess our point is that there’s nothing to be scared of the future,

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but it seems like 99% of the times you’re thinking about the future is futile.

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Yeah, I wonder how many people look at the future.

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As optimistic versus freaking them out.

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I’ve noticed there’s types of people, I’ve got friends that

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they always have something in the future like that’s

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gonna change everything like oh you know i’m gonna add this to my business and

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it’s gonna explode right and that that comes and goes and then there’s something

00:16:31.573 –> 00:16:35.873
else right there’s always that thing then like you’re never gonna do that but

00:16:35.873 –> 00:16:41.393
they believe that that’s gonna be the thing you know i’m talking about yeah sure um.

00:16:42.495 –> 00:16:45.915
I would love to just say this because I actually do believe it,

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but I’m going to have to give credit where credit’s due.

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Daniel Pink has this model.

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And so for the future, Dan Pink says that the best thing you can do,

00:16:59.315 –> 00:17:04.515
the most productive time that you can spend thinking about the future is thinking

00:17:04.515 –> 00:17:09.475
about why is what I’m doing right now important?

00:17:10.275 –> 00:17:11.315
What matters?

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And that’s the only kind of thinking about the future that you really need to

00:17:15.715 –> 00:17:18.535
do. Because otherwise, it’s just imagination and speculation.

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So there are times where you, I mean, that may be your model,

00:17:22.535 –> 00:17:24.175
right? You may bet on a football game.

00:17:24.275 –> 00:17:28.295
You may bet on your business, bet on stuff, and you don’t know what’s going to happen.

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And so you’re like, well, I got to weigh the odds and so forth.

00:17:31.535 –> 00:17:36.295
But again, that really boils down to why does the action I take today matter?

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And if you limit yourself to that, it can be time very well spent.

00:17:42.135 –> 00:17:46.755
Sort of like when you think about the past, regrets really aren’t productive.

00:17:47.455 –> 00:17:51.695
Yeah. Having that regret, looking back and say, oh, gosh, I shouldn’t have said

00:17:51.695 –> 00:17:54.235
that. I shouldn’t. It doesn’t help.

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There’s nothing really productive out of that, most likely, other than if you

00:18:00.155 –> 00:18:05.695
go past the regret into reflection where you say, oh, what should I change so

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that I don’t reproduce that result?

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So for the future and the past, you got to realize that has nothing to do with

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what’s going on right now.

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And it’s all in your head. Your past is all in your head.

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The future is all in your head. It’s either your regrets or your reflection,

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or you’re thinking about the future and you’re thinking about possibilities

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or trying to make what you’re doing today matter.

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And so what Dan Pink would say is that the reason you want to live in the present

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is because this is where action takes place.

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I think I can get on board with that.

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There’s this quote from Galadriel in Lord of the Rings whenever they ask her

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what she’s pondering over.

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And she goes, things that have come to pass, things that exist and things that

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may never exist or something.

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And then that someone turned it into a meme where

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they’re like what my what my anxiety is about and

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i’m like i never connected anything more than that because i’m just like oh

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my gosh yeah like it is really

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really easy to just sit

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in a hot tub of those anxious thoughts

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for the past the present and the

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future and you really it to me it’s really

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important to snap out of it and just exist is

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it fair to say then that you should spend your time thinking about the things

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that you can control because there’s a lot of things you can’t control or is

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that i mean because that i don’t know it yes i for sure it it also at some point

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we know the things that matter to us,

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like you do you can sit down you can talk I mean because and I’m going to make

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a universal statement here and people can debate this for eons.

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At the end of the day, it’s people. People matter. That’s all that’s important.

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Because you can, yes, you might save, I mean, you can have other things that

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are important, saving the wilderness and or the planet and stuff like that.

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But it boils down to people.

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So there’s only so much time you can

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spend thinking about how can I impact people? How can I be a better dad?

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How can I be a better business person? How can I connect with my customers more?

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All those things. What should I, all those things.

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But until you’re actually doing something and trying it out,

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you’ll never know what actually works.

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And so I think when this is something that I am curious, it’s certainly,

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speaking of memes, it’s certainly a common trope right now is that the younger generation,

00:20:43.262 –> 00:20:46.342
millennials and even Gen Z, they don’t think

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that they can do anything today that will impact their

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future so they when they look at the future they

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say oh there’s there’s it doesn’t matter because there’s nothing

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i can do and it and it’s paralyzing a lot of their action or at least creating

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a lot of anxiety it appears insurmountable right so that will cause paralysis

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and it’s interesting because gen x my generation i would say we were brought

00:21:10.322 –> 00:21:13.782
i don’t know why we were brought up.

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It’s not necessarily our upbringing, more as a factor of society how it was.

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I always believed I could make a difference.

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I don’t know if that’s because my goals are different. Was that the underlying

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message of society during that time?

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Will they at some point? Will my actions make a difference?

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Will Gen X make a difference at some point? Yeah, as soon as the baby boomers die. Yeah.

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We’ll start making a difference. Shout out the whole word. Baby boomer.

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Just kidding. We love you, boomers. Do we?

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I mean…

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Not individuals. There are boomers that I really like.

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My wife is actually right on the line. She’s on the cusp. Yes, just on the cusp.

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And so she does not like it if she’s called a boomer. But I’m like,

00:22:05.364 –> 00:22:07.824
hey, what can I say? You didn’t have email in college.

00:22:08.544 –> 00:22:12.684
So was the show you’re thinking called Dark Matter? Yes. Okay.

00:22:13.324 –> 00:22:16.944
You could not let that go, could you? No, no, no. Speaking of process,

00:22:17.384 –> 00:22:20.124
but that was in the present. That was in the present. Yeah, good job, Roger.

00:22:20.324 –> 00:22:24.084
Oh, I also, so two things. One more takeaway that we can talk about,

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but also I need to issue an apology.

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I was listening to one of our Star Wars episodes. I was talking about the show

00:22:30.504 –> 00:22:38.364
Kenobi, and I said that Kenobi was on Apple TV+. I said it under my breath, and I was like, what?

00:22:39.604 –> 00:22:45.684
Kenobi is a Star Wars thing. It’s going to be on Disney. So it’s like Apple TV+, what?

00:22:45.684 –> 00:22:50.244
I have to say, you really did a 180 there because I was really expecting an

00:22:50.244 –> 00:22:54.864
apology for, no, Eric, you’re right, the Ewok song was no good.

00:22:54.964 –> 00:22:57.564
No, never. I really, all right.

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I have no regrets there. I’ll go to- Not even one letter? I’ll go to- What?

00:23:03.304 –> 00:23:06.824
That’s from Where the Millers. Did you guys see that with Jason Bateman and

00:23:06.824 –> 00:23:07.684
Jennifer Aniston? I did.

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I’m trying- That’s great. At the end, there’s a guy comes in and he’s like,

00:23:11.884 –> 00:23:16.204
he’s got a tattoo, no regrets, except it’s spelled regerts. Regrets, yeah.

00:23:16.484 –> 00:23:19.144
And so Jason’s like, no regrets, huh? Not even one letter.

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Not to dwell on the past, but one time we ordered, my family ordered a cake

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for someone’s graduation or for a birthday.

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And all we asked for them to write was, congratulations.

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And instead, they wrote congratial anciens. And so for like everything after

00:23:40.724 –> 00:23:45.284
that, we would write congratial anciens because we just think it’s funny because

00:23:45.284 –> 00:23:46.884
we were dwelling on the past.

00:23:47.004 –> 00:23:50.244
But the final takeaway that we talked about is the fact that,

00:23:50.464 –> 00:23:52.704
yeah, living in the now is great. It’s invigorating.

00:23:53.244 –> 00:23:57.224
It makes us feel like, oh, you know, we exist, we live.

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But there are still problems in the present that you might not be able to tackle.

00:24:02.944 –> 00:24:06.904
And so it is okay to be a little bit pragmatic. Like if you’re thinking about,

00:24:07.404 –> 00:24:08.804
all right, how do I fix the country?

00:24:08.984 –> 00:24:13.584
How do I make it so that, you know, everyone who’s not able to save will have

00:24:13.584 –> 00:24:15.904
a robot that takes care of them in their old age?

00:24:16.184 –> 00:24:18.984
How do we, you know, address birth rate?

00:24:20.044 –> 00:24:23.184
Massive problems that’s going to require a lot of coordination stuff.

00:24:23.284 –> 00:24:26.124
We can’t do that. Out of your control. Out of your control. We can do it now.

00:24:26.644 –> 00:24:30.604
But there’s still stuff now where we say, okay, I need to buy a house.

00:24:30.604 –> 00:24:33.584
You might not have enough money to buy a house it is

00:24:33.584 –> 00:24:36.984
okay that there are certain problems that

00:24:36.984 –> 00:24:41.164
you cannot tackle in the now and it’s okay to accept that but but i would argue

00:24:41.164 –> 00:24:45.064
like hey that’s my future goal i want to buy a house i need more money say you’re

00:24:45.064 –> 00:24:48.964
a business owner you can have that thought in the future but okay what can i

00:24:48.964 –> 00:24:52.404
do today today to do that oh i can say i’m a car wash i’m like you know what

00:24:52.404 –> 00:24:55.924
i’m gonna raise every car wash by 25 cents yeah let’s see what that does You know what I mean?

00:24:55.984 –> 00:24:58.964
You can’t solve the whole problem today.

00:24:59.624 –> 00:25:01.064
Or you can bet it all on black.

00:25:02.444 –> 00:25:05.384
Or you can do that. I mean. Once again. Yeah.

00:25:06.145 –> 00:25:13.545
So, I mean, I think it’s interesting. I was just thinking about the generational thing.

00:25:13.845 –> 00:25:18.225
I think for Gen X, there was a positivity about the future. There was an assumption

00:25:18.225 –> 00:25:20.445
that we didn’t have to worry about the future.

00:25:21.025 –> 00:25:23.645
There was nothing to worry about. It was just going to work out.

00:25:23.785 –> 00:25:25.105
Like, I’ll take an instance.

00:25:25.725 –> 00:25:29.325
Now, you just mentioned, you know, will we have a robot that takes care of all

00:25:29.325 –> 00:25:31.165
of our old people when they get older and so forth?

00:25:31.165 –> 00:25:36.865
I’m not worried about that at all because I just saw that they had a humanoid

00:25:36.865 –> 00:25:40.885
robot win a half marathon with regular runners.

00:25:41.085 –> 00:25:45.705
And now I don’t have to run the half marathon. Yeah, you’re totally done.

00:25:45.905 –> 00:25:49.965
We were counting on you. I was like, oh, my gosh, right off my bucket list.

00:25:50.085 –> 00:25:51.305
I don’t even have to worry about it.

00:25:51.425 –> 00:25:54.925
A robot can do it for me. So I have optimism for the future.

00:25:55.145 –> 00:25:59.625
You’re saying it’s ridiculous to think that a robot would run in your place.

00:26:00.105 –> 00:26:02.585
No, I’m saying that I don’t have to do it now. Thank God.

00:26:04.765 –> 00:26:08.965
I do remember growing up just going, you know, I wasn’t always the best student

00:26:08.965 –> 00:26:11.265
in high school and stuff, but it didn’t matter in my mind. I was like,

00:26:11.345 –> 00:26:14.185
I did. I was like, I’ll be fine. I’ll be successful.

00:26:14.445 –> 00:26:17.085
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I just knew it in my mind.

00:26:17.205 –> 00:26:19.885
It’s going to work out. It’s going to work out. And curious to.

00:26:20.125 –> 00:26:23.825
And there is there is a part. I mean, there’s a part of me that looks at our

00:26:23.825 –> 00:26:26.845
economy and what what’s happening and how things are.

00:26:26.845 –> 00:26:30.705
And you can argue about different reasons why and what the cure is,

00:26:30.845 –> 00:26:38.905
but the general feeling right now is that we’re not on a path as an American society.

00:26:38.905 –> 00:26:45.785
We’re not on a path. I could see where a lot of people would feel like we’re past peak, right?

00:26:45.905 –> 00:26:53.125
We’ve hit peak patriotism and the optimism about the everyday experience in

00:26:53.125 –> 00:27:00.105
the States is not very sunny. Yeah, I want to mention this. We’re almost to the end of this episode.

00:27:00.385 –> 00:27:05.365
But talking about like generational perceptions and stuff, I am…

00:27:06.226 –> 00:27:09.646
I saw the movie Goodfellas when I was a kid. Loved it. Gosh.

00:27:09.966 –> 00:27:13.466
Goodfellas is a great movie. Anytime it’s on, I end up watching the whole thing.

00:27:13.926 –> 00:27:21.626
But there is a scene in Goodfellas whenever he takes his little brother to the hospital.

00:27:22.286 –> 00:27:27.986
And while he’s there, he just takes his brother to the hospital when the helicopter is tracking him.

00:27:28.146 –> 00:27:32.166
At the hospital, one of the doctors comes up to him and says,

00:27:32.386 –> 00:27:38.626
hey, you’re not looking so hot. let’s take you over and examine you.

00:27:38.766 –> 00:27:42.706
And so they examine him and give him some medication and they send him on his way.

00:27:44.526 –> 00:27:48.526
That sounds like a magical fairyland.

00:27:48.666 –> 00:27:55.886
Like the idea that you could go into a hospital, a doctor sees you and on their

00:27:55.886 –> 00:27:58.706
own volition says, oh, we’re going to give you some help.

00:27:58.866 –> 00:28:08.626
My experience with the healthcare system has been a labyrinth of pain and confusion and financial ruin.

00:28:08.866 –> 00:28:14.466
And so it’s like we look at the past and we go, what was there really a time

00:28:14.466 –> 00:28:18.466
that you could just pop into a hospital and someone wants to help you?

00:28:18.866 –> 00:28:24.826
So, yeah, thinking about how good things used to be kind of sets you up for

00:28:24.826 –> 00:28:25.786
a failure, in my opinion.

00:28:26.967 –> 00:28:30.407
I don’t know how to respond to that. Yeah. I was hoping we’d go out on a positive

00:28:30.407 –> 00:28:35.347
note, but, you know, it looks a little bleak. But no, I mean, honestly, I get that.

00:28:35.527 –> 00:28:39.607
But, you know, I think if you ask my kids, you know, about their future,

00:28:39.727 –> 00:28:42.307
I bet you anything they’d be like, oh, I’m fine, I’m going to be, you know what I mean?

00:28:43.007 –> 00:28:48.307
So I do think as society, it’s kind of more bleak, but I’ve got a positive note.

00:28:48.767 –> 00:28:52.767
And that is things change, I think.

00:28:52.967 –> 00:28:54.827
Well, what I’ve learned in the

00:28:54.827 –> 00:28:59.287
past couple of years is that things change more quickly than you think.

00:28:59.747 –> 00:29:02.547
Both, I think, good and bad. That’s true.

00:29:02.767 –> 00:29:08.347
So I think that if you watch things kind of degrade quickly,

00:29:09.467 –> 00:29:16.847
I think that if you have a positive attitude, you can make moves for things to get good quickly.

00:29:16.887 –> 00:29:23.467
As long as you’re not being consumed with, I mean, essentially it’s self-pity.

00:29:23.667 –> 00:29:28.067
It’s kind of like saying, Oh, well, this and not to sound like one of those

00:29:28.067 –> 00:29:31.807
aggro podcast bros, but it’s true.

00:29:31.847 –> 00:29:36.807
Like, I find it’s true. If I dwell too much on, oh, man, what a rough thing

00:29:36.807 –> 00:29:41.607
that happened in my college years, then I will just sit in a hot tub of self-pity

00:29:41.607 –> 00:29:46.467
as opposed to saying, what is in front of me right now? And then just attacking it.

00:29:47.430 –> 00:29:54.350
Man, I don’t know. I love talking about the philosophy of perspective and so forth.

00:29:55.690 –> 00:30:03.950
I just want to say that it’s taken me years and years to get to this point,

00:30:03.950 –> 00:30:07.750
so I’m not sure even how to convey it 100% correctly.

00:30:08.350 –> 00:30:13.430
I think what it boils down to is realizing that at any given moment,

00:30:13.650 –> 00:30:18.070
like literally at any given millisecond, you have a choice.

00:30:19.610 –> 00:30:24.250
And that, and the fact that you have a choice, and that choice could be anything

00:30:24.250 –> 00:30:29.550
from, I’m going to lift my right arm to, I’m going to leave this room to,

00:30:29.750 –> 00:30:32.130
I’m going to jump up and down to whatever.

00:30:32.350 –> 00:30:34.270
I’m going to subscribe to the bounce rate. Yeah.

00:30:34.570 –> 00:30:38.230
Oh, like I’m going to get all my friends to subscribe to the bounce rate.

00:30:38.390 –> 00:30:42.250
I’m going to go sponsor the bounce rate at a restaurant. I’m going to sponsor

00:30:42.250 –> 00:30:43.910
them going to the Oscars.

00:30:44.330 –> 00:30:49.270
There are so many decisions that you as a listener could be making right now

00:30:49.270 –> 00:30:51.230
that could impact the, wait, I’ve lost my way.

00:30:51.230 –> 00:30:57.670
But I find that thought, that choice of free will,

00:30:57.930 –> 00:31:02.910
very empowering, as long as you look at it from the perspective of,

00:31:03.110 –> 00:31:07.350
can I do something literally right now?

00:31:07.830 –> 00:31:10.750
Do I have, am I empowered to do something?

00:31:10.910 –> 00:31:16.410
As soon as I get into, well, can I help global climate change?

00:31:16.550 –> 00:31:18.730
Yeah, you’re not going to, it’s not going to work well for you.

00:31:19.919 –> 00:31:26.019
Number one, you did something great two years ago. You did something dumb two years ago. Big whoop.

00:31:26.399 –> 00:31:29.279
Get your head in the game that you’re playing right now.

00:31:29.939 –> 00:31:36.039
Two, if there’s no action to take for a future prediction, you’re just playing

00:31:36.039 –> 00:31:40.179
imagination, time travel, cosplay. You’re not actually planning.

00:31:41.179 –> 00:31:45.239
And three, remember, there’s a lot of problems in the present,

00:31:45.239 –> 00:31:49.479
even if you’re living in the now, that you can’t take on.

00:31:49.919 –> 00:31:56.859
But there’s just as many that you can. Get out there. Make some choices. Time travel.