The Bounce Rate Podcast

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Underneath the lightsabers and dramatic breathing of Star Wars is a masterclass

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in poor decision-making, fragile leadership, and what happens when extremely

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talented people absolutely refuse to seek therapy.

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This episode takes a step back from the spectacle and asks a better question.

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Why do we make our most crucial decisions out of fear?

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Today is a very special episode because it’s part of a trilogy.

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This is a trilogy episode. This first episode, we’re talking about letting fear.

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It’s Star Wars Episode 4, A New Hope, and letting fear hyperdrive decisions, really.

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Because I’m a pretty huge Star Wars fan.

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We’re in varying degrees of Star Wars fandom, correct? Yeah, for sure.

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Also, I want to note that we are ahead of the game here because we are not waiting

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for the cheesy May 4th date to release these podcasts.

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Truly innovators not imitators that’s what I call us we’re we’re disruptors

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and that we will talk about Star Wars year round and we will probably do Christmas

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in July that would be that would be fun yeah can get on board with that but definitely,

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various levels so as long as you bring the cool weather I will say I’m gonna

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I’m gonna I’m gonna do it I think we all know based on our personalities on

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this podcast that James is not a dork.

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Yes yeah when i think about dorks james does

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not enter the picture he’s not a dork he’s not a nerd he’s not

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a geek he’s too cool he’s really too cool for this how come that feels like

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uh like a bad thing like a slut no yeah no what it should what it really should

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feel like is sour grapes and wistful thinking yeah basically it’s it’s envy

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it’s envy we’re envious y’all don’t know the real me,

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We’re pretty sure. Yeah. We’re pretty sure. I get a feeling. Yeah.

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Well, I love Star Wars. I’ve always loved Star Wars since I was a little kid.

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Every day after school, I would watch one of the three original trilogy on tape.

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That’s how old Roger is. We’d have VHS tapes and we would watch them.

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Growing up, I think my favorite was Return of the Jedi.

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But once I got older, Empire was, was all, Empire’s a better made movie, I think.

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Oh, oh my God. Yeah, for sure. So tell you how old Eric is. I saw him at the theater.

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Ooh. Nice. Yes. I want to say I saw at least, I probably saw him at the theater.

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You probably saw like Empire and it

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would have been hard for you because you wouldn’t of could you because they

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didn’t have star wars on tape when empire

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came out did they no yeah so if

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you’ve missed star wars you’re kind of like who are these characters why is

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this walking furball in front i remember it being a big deal and like loving

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it and looking up to luke skywalker like he was so cool he’s famous waving sticks

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around in the air these are my light lightsabers yeah Yeah, yeah.

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Of course, my hypothesis is that everything Luke did, he did out of fear.

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That’s true. Today we’re talking about fear and about how A New Hope is,

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and the other films, but specifically A New Hope, is packed with fear and decision

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making and why that’s not always a good thing.

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Sometimes fear is good, but sometimes… It certainly propels plot. Yeah.

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Bold statement here.

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I kind of feel like majority of decisions made by humanity are based out of fear.

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Is that, I mean, am I going, is that too much? Oh, that is a bold statement.

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Oh, wait, you know what? You’re kind of an academic.

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I’m going to take, you know, we were thinking jock, but now you’ve kind of changed

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hats on us. I don’t know, James.

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It’s true. That is a really good question. There’s also like,

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there’s fear of consequences if you don’t do something.

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There’s also like fear of appearing to be something that you’re not.

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Like a lot of decisions are pretty rude. There’s fear of going and angering

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the dictator that just invaded Poland.

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I mean, there’s a lot of stuff that goes around. Because what’s on the other side?

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Like we make decisions based out of fear, but if we’re not making a decision

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based out of fear, what is driving that decision? Love. Joy.

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There we go. Did you want a longer answer? I know. I’m just asking.

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Well, here’s the deal. There wasn’t that much joy in Star Wars.

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He was, you know, he wanted, Luke wanted adventure, but he wanted dramatic adventure.

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Like, it’s very interesting how we know that we want joy in life,

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but we also don’t think that we deserve it, maybe. But also,

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he became very passive through that.

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He was not willing to go get power converters because of whatever his Uncle Owen would send.

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What was Luke in the series? Like, 21?

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I mean, Luke, get a spine. Come on. Stand up to, yeah.

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Yeah, he had to wait until Aunt Veru and Uncle Owen were dead before he could even make a move.

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Then it was like, oh, I’m scared of the stormtroopers. I better get off this

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planet with this old guy that I kind of knew.

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One key takeaway that I feel like I got from rewatching A New Hope was the concept

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of remembering your training.

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And that’s one thing that I feel like…

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So the whole thing about Luke is

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that he’s force sensitive. He’s able to control, you know, use the force.

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He’s got raw talent. He’s got raw talent.

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But, and, you know, obviously he goes on a journey where he becomes the greatest Jedi that’s ever been.

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But he was able to blow up the Death Star with just the skills that he kind of already had.

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Oh, good point. He just kind of, and so. Because he was a badass.

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Well, he was. And, you know, he specifically said, you know,

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when they were like, oh, well, we can’t blow up this thing because you can’t

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get it in the thing and into the hole.

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And he goes, well, I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.

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A lot of times the problems that you are facing aren’t as big as you actually think.

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Or they are big, but you know that you have the skills to take it on.

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Like there’s sort of this kind of the way with Darth Vader where it’s like,

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all right, well, he’s this larger than life force, but he’s actually just a dude in a set.

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So are you saying that maybe fear turns manageable problems into galaxy ending one? Absolutely. Yeah.

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No, I’m not saying that. I knew him.

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I would say too. No, I think what you’re saying, and see if this resonates,

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that whatever challenge you’re facing, there’s probably something in your past

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that you can use to help overcome that.

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Yeah, for sure. A lot of times we already have those tools that we think that

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we need to do something special to do, but we…

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We usually have the experience to tackle it. That’s been my experience in life.

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Okay, now that we’ve established that, I want to go back to this quote, to this that James says.

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Say your thing again. I was just asking if, which one? The one you just said.

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Oh, I’m just saying, does fear take manageable problems and turn them in our

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mind to galaxy ending problems?

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I mean, does it inflate them, right? Right.

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To me, that’s a really good point. You’re on fire today.

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To me, there’s definitely an extent of that where, let’s say there is a huge

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issue and it happens, but you’re still around.

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What next? You still have to kind of pick yourself up and move forward.

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And so that’s not to say that problems aren’t big, but I think we’ve all experienced

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that thing where the worst case scenario happens and you’re still standing.

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Yeah, and then you realize that there is actually an additional little monster

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inside the trash compactor.

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That’s where you’re staying. You’ve avoided the stormtroopers.

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I’m trying to bring it back. Yeah, please.

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Avoided the stormtroopers. That’s your problem. Yeah. You acted out of fear.

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You dove into a garbage chute, and now you realize there’s another creature

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surfacing around, swimming around in the garbage with you.

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Well, that’s another good point. You never know if things could get worse than you thought.

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Well, and I think when you’re, you know, when fear is involved,

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like more fear makes you react, you know, the higher level of fear,

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the more drastic your decisions.

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But I see this in business all the time where people are, you know,

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backed into a corner and they’re not able to be themselves or reflect back on

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their training where they just become, you know, they make these.

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They’re paralyzed. Yeah. Well, they make bad decisions.

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You know, I’ll 100% commission sales reps like,

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oh gosh, I got to pay the bills and they’re pushing hard and not using a correct

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sales approach or a business owner going, oh, I got to buy this advertisement

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because things aren’t good. This is going to fix me when they’re not, you know what I mean?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I’m going to have to reach back and bring up my game because James is here to play.

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So I’m going to talk about how Maslow’s hierarchy of needs plays into that.

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So the whole idea of Maslow’s hierarchy at the base is you have basic survival.

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So if you’re being threatened in your very existence, do I have food? Do I have water?

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Is a bear chasing me? Those primal fears are going to take over where what we

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all really want is self-actualization at the end, where we’re at the highest

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level of our performing.

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We’re doing the things that really make a difference for us,

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our family, society, all that stuff.

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And James, what I think you’re saying is that a lot of times we treat it as

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though we’re at a lower level of, of that hierarchy.

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Oh my God, if this sale doesn’t happen, oh my gosh, if this ad doesn’t work,

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I’m out of the game. It’s over.

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Everything’s going to fall apart. And, and that’s not usually true.

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Yes. Nailed it. That’s exactly what I was trying to say. That was,

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that was, I was really trying to bring up.

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Oh God. I do like the eye of looking at Maslow’s hierarchy of needs through

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Star Wars because it’s true.

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It starts with Luke Skywalker just trying to stay alive, and it ends with him

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being self-actualizing.

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Yeah. Yeah. Right. So he goes through. That’s his arc. His arc.

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And he’s got a cool black outfit.

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By the end. Well, at the very end, yes. But that’s two episodes away for us

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as well. Yeah, no spoilers. As well as him. We’re spoiling it. Oh, gosh.

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So another thing that I… So here’s one little thing that I think is…

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So has everyone seen Rogue One?

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No. One of the newer ones, right? That was the one that led up to A New Hope. Yeah.

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Yeah, I think I’ve seen it. rogue one

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is i it might be one of

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the best star wars creations within

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the past 10 years and not saying much

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wow shots fired hey get ready because it’s coming go ahead it’s fired i love

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the idea that they wrote a movie up to the second before a new hope starts and And cinematically,

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there’s that part where they kind of retcon Darth Vader where,

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you know, when we when we first see Darth Vader, it’s just a guy in a black

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suit walking around. He’s grumpy and he’s angry.

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And we don’t you know, because they didn’t know how successful these things were going to be.

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He doesn’t seem like that much of a threat like like the guy,

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the guy in the board meeting even insults him like.

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So it’s funny, though, you say that because I have a friend that is just a hair younger than I am.

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We were talking about what movies scared us the most as kids.

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And I was like, because I think New Hope came out in 77.

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Yeah. So I was like seven. Okay. So I was really young.

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And my friend said, Darth Vader scared the bejesus out of him.

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He was like that handset. I’m like, no, that did not scare.

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Aliens was my first scary movie. That’s a whole side story.

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But he was petrified of Darth Vader at that time.

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And I think maybe our expectations of movies and what, because one of the things that made Star Wars so,

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such a landmark film where the special effects was the entire immersion that,

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I mean, I think what we would expect of a villain today, or maybe somebody that’s

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a little younger would have expected didn’t need to happen in 77.

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In 77, like Darth Vader was a badass.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I’m not saying that he wasn’t scary. I guess what I’m saying

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is me as a man in my thirties, I late thirties, almost 40.

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I just have 77 was a good, a decade before I was even on this planet.

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But what I was making was that I, as a man, no longer really feared the concept

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of Darth Vader until that movie came out.

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Rogue One. Rogue One came out. And they actually showed what a threat he would be.

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Like that sequence at the end where they showed Darth Vader just nonchalantly

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taking out all these dudes, that was like chilling.

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And so I was, that was, you know, I always thought that was interesting about

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the Darth Vader has been such a dynamic symbol of fear.

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I noticed something when my kids were a little bit younger and we’re watching

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the newer Star Wars, they got into it.

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But like they would play with their friends and, you know, your role playing

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and doing your creative, you know, and a lot of kids wanted to be.

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You know a villain like darth vader sure like i

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don’t remember that as a kid that you wanted to be the villain huh that

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you know you never want you never no i always wanted to be

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like luke skywalker i wanted to be the one that you know

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the winner right though just the good guy but i don’t know if you guys experienced

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that when you’re kids i just don’t know if it was something new that’s that’s

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happening or if that was always the case i don’t think it’s like i don’t think

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it’s kids identify with evil i think the because i i definitely was a kid where

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i’m like oh i identify with the villain,

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I think some kids just like a more gothic aesthetic.

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Yeah, right, right. It’s just the makeup and costume.

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I think the other thing that really makes Darth Vader formidable,

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and why I as a man actually fear him, is because it’s not just Darth Vader.

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Yes, Darth Vader clearly, as a one-on-one, is this wrecking machine.

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He also has trooper after battalion of stormtroopers. Yes, they built a Death

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Star, right? They built a small moon.

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The kinds of things that they can throw at you, and I’m kind of doing this,

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entering it kind of backwards on the dark side here.

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All that happens with allies. It happens with friends and allies and peers.

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And so the same way there’s kind of a, I don’t really, I’m not going to really

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buy this later when I listen to it again, but there’s kind of a parallel because

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you see Luke, the only way Luke becomes stronger is as he gains more friends.

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He starts with Obi-Wan, picks up Han Solo, Princess Leia,

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the entire rebellion, and that’s what truly makes him formidable because if

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it had just been Luke’s X-Wing against the Death Star, he wouldn’t have made it.

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Yeah, that’s a great point. He needed three other people to go through and they

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all died for him to get there. Also think about, yeah, RIP.

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Also think about the ending, and this is the case for all of the films,

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but the ending is never, hey, I just vanquished the evil thing and now it’s the end of the movie.

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Always ends with him hanging out with his buds. The end of A New Hope is him

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getting an award from one of his new friends with two of his new friends.

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And specifically what makes Empire so dramatic at the end and what leaves it

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unfair is that they separate.

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Yeah. Yeah, literally the end of Empire, he’s just looking out of a window at

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his friends going away. And then at the end, and we all know what happens at

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the end of return. He becomes a furry.

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Well, I don’t know. It’s clear what happens at the end of Revenge of the Dead. Who knows?

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Revenge of the Dead. Who knows what happened at that Ewok party. I’m telling you.

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But your point is valid in that along a journey, you are going to find allies.

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Not only find them, you need them, right? Yeah.

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Sorry, on the flip side of that too, you can look at Darth Vader and look at

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he’s also had his path and built his team. So go ahead. Sorry.

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Yeah, that’s what I mean. That’s why I mean, there’s almost there is like his

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journey prior to Luke Skywalker’s journey, which I mean, is explored in the

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first three episodes, right?

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One, two and three, the phantom horrible movies. they show his,

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build up and it becomes a question of how many

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people is he around what kind of power does he amass is

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not just his own personal ability but it’s who is he becoming I mean he needed

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the emperor to become an ally I mean I would argue that in my life if I my allies

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if I hadn’t gone to this meetup group and met an Eric Schaefer I wouldn’t be

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sitting here today oh god You know, like I, I,

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so that was part of my training, but that, I like, I like how you don’t view Eric as a Han Solo.

00:19:05.697 –> 00:19:08.437
You viewed him as a sheave Palpatine. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, those are words put in my mouth. It’s probably the hair.

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Yeah. I just, I was just saying I’m good with it. I’m good with it.

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I like the goth aesthetic.

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Yeah. You’d look good in a black cape, man. But it’s also, it’s interesting

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where my, you never know.

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What opportunity will look like exactly.

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In your mind, you might be thinking, oh, I’m going to go to starfighter school,

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and I’m going to become the best starfighter.

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That might not be your path. Your path might literally be to meet a smuggler

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with a dog best friend, and then you go on this, but then that makes you meet

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this person who’s connected.

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And then instead of going to school, you got to get jump right into it or something. You, you,

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What Luke thought his path was going to be to his ultimate want was different

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than what the path ended up being. And I think we kind of need to be open to that.

00:20:09.802 –> 00:20:12.242
Yeah, I was going to say, what does that mean, though? So obviously,

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does that say don’t plan everything out to a T?

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Like be open to pivots? Yeah, be open to opportunities.

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The opportunities that pop up in life, and from my experience,

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never look exactly like the way that I thought it would.

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It’s always like, yes, I have a want or a goal in my head that I’m going for, but the exact path,

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the exact road to that has never fit my expectation.

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And I’ve had to be open to, well, this isn’t quite what I thought this would

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look like, but this is still cool.

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And I’m going to take that down, you know, in our personal lives,

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even when we have, when we’re, sorry, in our professional lives,

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when you’re looking at what does that look like?

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I think the, the intersection of what you’re trying to do and who you’re with defines your success.

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So if I am a restaurateur and I’m trying to make my pizza place go or I’m a

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real estate agent, whatever it is.

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At some point I have to trust other people.

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I have to have other people do things. Depending on who that person is and what they shine at,

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I may try to, and this is where your malleability comes in and being open,

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I might see myself as, oh, I’m the guy that is at the restaurant and I’m the

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one that keeps everybody on task.

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Well, if I bring somebody on who is like that…

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I need to switch to somebody who’s focusing on the marketing.

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I’m somebody that’s focusing on looking at the new location or working on the

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vendors or whatever it might be.

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So having that flexibility in your life to, as you bring people in,

00:22:01.547 –> 00:22:04.867
to adapt to a different role is really important.

00:22:05.287 –> 00:22:10.607
And Star Wars shows it. I’m just going to say plug that because we’re talking about Star Wars.

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What color lightsaber would you have if you were in that universe? I’m curious.

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I like blue. I didn’t know they had, do they have blue lights? Who had blue?

00:22:21.707 –> 00:22:25.147
They famously have blue lights. There was, yeah, there’s, there’s three colors.

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So, I mean, there, there’s three colors and then they expanded the universe

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to have a million colors.

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For merchandising. Yeah. But

00:22:31.807 –> 00:22:36.147
there were three original colors and that was red, blue, and green. Okay.

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My, my, uh, sister’s son, he is a fanatic and he, he collects,

00:22:43.307 –> 00:22:45.347
they have really cool lightsabers now.

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You know what I mean? He collects them and they’re like, they’re insane like

00:22:48.847 –> 00:22:51.727
yeah they’re expensive is what they are they’re expensive i

00:22:51.727 –> 00:22:55.467
mean they range in prices so i also have a request i

00:22:55.467 –> 00:22:58.427
love star wars i’ve always loved star wars and i

00:22:58.427 –> 00:23:02.247
have never been to this galaxy’s edge situation at

00:23:02.247 –> 00:23:05.047
orlando florida i’ve never seen it

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so i need some podcast

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sponsors to reach out to us so disney

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if you want or universal i think it’s universal no that’s

00:23:14.787 –> 00:23:17.607
disney all right disney yeah so disney if you

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about all these new disney you want to know my deepest fear is that we see one

00:23:32.787 –> 00:23:39.787
more death star being blown up and tell that story again because really rogue one new hope and.

00:23:41.138 –> 00:23:47.118
The Return of the Jedi, it’s like, okay, Steven, we get it. You’re telling the story.

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We’re seeing another aspect of this. That’s why I like Star Trek.

00:23:50.398 –> 00:23:51.458
I’m just going to throw it out there.

00:23:52.138 –> 00:23:55.678
Every movie is completely different. We’re moving on to new things,

00:23:55.818 –> 00:23:59.638
telling new stories. It’s not the same story over and over again.

00:23:59.958 –> 00:24:05.598
I think that’s a valid point. What we should do at the end of each of these

00:24:05.598 –> 00:24:07.678
episodes is offer a Star Trek.

00:24:08.953 –> 00:24:13.413
Flip side. Yeah. But so here’s the problem. William Shatner has no fear.

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I mean, he is the Chuck Norris.

00:24:15.453 –> 00:24:18.713
God rest his soul. He is the Chuck Norris of sci-fi.

00:24:19.253 –> 00:24:25.653
Well, but that’s having no fear. And this is a whole other episode.

00:24:26.673 –> 00:24:30.753
Sometimes that’s not good. I’m just I’m just going to say Will Shatner made

00:24:30.753 –> 00:24:33.333
Obi-Wan hold his coat while he beat up his girlfriend.

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I mean, it’s just doesn’t even make sense what what are

00:24:36.473 –> 00:24:39.633
you talking about i’m just saying well the shat

00:24:39.633 –> 00:24:43.173
is the man well all right i so here’s

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the the flip side of it what what’s the

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most what what induces the most

00:24:48.813 –> 00:24:52.653
fear in the in the star trek universe

00:24:52.653 –> 00:24:55.973
for for y’all induces personally

00:24:55.973 –> 00:24:58.853
the most fear like what i was actually afraid of from star trek

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i was always like you know

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because they had always like beam down to these planets and you never know what

00:25:04.773 –> 00:25:08.313
to expect and it’s always like sure like that’s scary like you don’t know what’s

00:25:08.313 –> 00:25:12.413
going to be down there i don’t know like it didn’t i wasn’t like fearful of

00:25:12.413 –> 00:25:16.333
it but it always was like that seems super scary to me yeah because they have

00:25:16.333 –> 00:25:20.893
all the run into all these different things i was always super afraid that the transporter.

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Actually deleted my original copy and it was just

00:25:24.873 –> 00:25:28.033
a copy being down there so it’s just a clone every time you transport yeah

00:25:28.033 –> 00:25:31.353
so it’s not authentic has to the prestige i

00:25:31.353 –> 00:25:38.493
i was always scared so in in the voyager voyager starts off with a mixed crew

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of starfleet and the maquis and the maquis is a freedom or a terrorist group

00:25:45.933 –> 00:25:49.733
i guess and so every now and then someone would be like a maquis.

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Mole spy who decides to to

00:25:54.254 –> 00:25:57.134
sabotage something that was always something that scared me

00:25:57.134 –> 00:25:59.794
the fact that you could trust trusting someone and then all

00:25:59.794 –> 00:26:02.474
of a sudden turns out they’re my key and then they lock you

00:26:02.474 –> 00:26:07.914
out of the air they take you out of the airlock yeah airlocks were scary across

00:26:07.914 –> 00:26:12.794
the board okay i got one final thing i wanted to talk about because i’ve been

00:26:12.794 –> 00:26:17.054
thinking about this obviously since we decided to do this star wars episode

00:26:17.054 –> 00:26:20.714
and like i think you know i was a kid,

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I looked up to Luke and he ultimately,

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with his team, defeated, blew up the Death Star, right?

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But you don’t just become Luke Skywalker, right?

00:26:29.194 –> 00:26:34.554
Like it took a journey of training, preparation, team, right?

00:26:34.714 –> 00:26:39.494
So, you know, like going back to sports, that NFL quarterback,

00:26:39.874 –> 00:26:44.994
when he, you know, it’s the two minutes left in the game and he drives his team

00:26:44.994 –> 00:26:48.354
down and wins, that wasn’t him just becoming a badass in that moment.

00:26:48.354 –> 00:26:53.734
That was a lot of preparation for him to be able to succeed at that moment.

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All I’m saying is that you have to train for everything, right? Like you don’t just.

00:27:00.314 –> 00:27:05.594
That luck is when, what is it? Preparation meets opportunity. I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:27:05.894 –> 00:27:13.514
But I think that’s also a good point. Like in Star Wars, Luke is itching to

00:27:13.514 –> 00:27:20.814
go on a journey of self-discovery and be who he knows he is and wants to be.

00:27:22.691 –> 00:27:26.171
We don’t always have that feeling. A lot of times we’ll be like,

00:27:26.271 –> 00:27:32.711
I know this is something that I can do, but it just seems like a whole mess of work.

00:27:34.511 –> 00:27:39.691
And no one is writing our script. Right. Because that really helps.

00:27:40.591 –> 00:27:45.091
Yes. It helps. Because you know you’re the main character. Yeah.

00:27:45.311 –> 00:27:47.751
Somebody’s doing that. And that helps a lot too. Yes.

00:27:48.131 –> 00:27:53.111
Anytime we try something, do you are do anytime you try something do you always

00:27:53.111 –> 00:27:56.731
sit there and think oh i’m the luke skywalker in this or i’m the stormtrooper

00:27:56.731 –> 00:28:01.491
they can’t aim oh that’s a good like where how do you perceive your yeah i’m

00:28:01.491 –> 00:28:07.071
like yeah i’ve felt both on both sides of that you know different situations,

00:28:07.891 –> 00:28:14.471
yeah i have noticed your aim is notoriously bad there’s a duality to there’s

00:28:14.471 –> 00:28:19.031
on the one side you know there’s the light and the other side there’s the dark

00:28:19.031 –> 00:28:23.411
i guess and you some sometimes one’s going to be motivating sometimes the other’s

00:28:23.411 –> 00:28:26.191
going to be motivating sometimes you identify as.

00:28:27.071 –> 00:28:33.631
Darth sometimes you identify as luke so as you head back out into your own version

00:28:33.631 –> 00:28:38.751
of the galaxy remember this you do not need a secret weapon you need to trust

00:28:38.751 –> 00:28:41.251
the reps that you have already put in.

00:28:41.451 –> 00:28:45.771
The small, boring skill sets built when no one else is watching are the exact

00:28:45.771 –> 00:28:48.151
things that will carry you when it actually matters.

00:28:48.291 –> 00:28:52.451
Turns out, bullseye whop rants might not be glamorous, but it gets the job done

00:28:52.451 –> 00:28:53.291
with the pressure it’s on.

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Move toward things because they are worth doing, not because you are being chased

00:28:58.171 –> 00:29:02.811
into them by stormtroopers, and let people find you along the way who are going

00:29:02.811 –> 00:29:05.111
to make the whole thing a little less terrifying.

00:29:05.311 –> 00:29:10.191
The best teams are not forced. They are discovered, usually in the middle of

00:29:10.191 –> 00:29:11.171
doing something meaningful.

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Do that, and you might not save the galaxy, but you’ll at least avoid becoming

00:29:16.671 –> 00:29:21.711
the villain in your own story, which, all things considered, is a pretty strong win.