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Who Wins in November? Seasonal Shifts for Local Businesses

Episode 19: Who Wins in November? Seasonal Shifts for Local Businesses

Release date: 12/01/2025
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In this episode we review November traditions and discuss how seasonal changes affect local businesses: which slow down (like real estate and some home services) and which pick up (like restaurants, dry cleaners, and car washes depending on region). Learn why November–December is a good time to build marketing funnels and customer loyalty even if conversions peak later.

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Thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you.

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to The Bounce Rate. That’s it. Have a good night. No, I’m just kidding.

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We have left October. We’re now in November.

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This is a very special November, beginning of November episode of The Bounce Rate. Right.

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A traditional middle of early November podcast.

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That’s right. Right. And a tradition that goes back to the 1700s when podcasts

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were first invented. Right, right.

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Same time that the fax was first used in the Vatican. That’s true.

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They said a fax to the Pope that said, nice hat. Yep.

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Too pointy. Fact check on that. But what we’re going to do today is we’re going

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to talk about some local business changes that tend to happen in November.

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First of all, Eric, how are you doing?

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Yeah I’m good you know I’m good I’m good my I um yeah.

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Good. What about you, Roger? It’s a treat to have you on screen.

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So this is true. Normally you see James here. James is off surfing or,

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you know, doing something.

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Skydiving. Skydiving. Whatever. So if you go watch, not the new one,

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the original movie Point Break. Yeah.

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With Keanu Reeves and nobody puts baby. Yeah.

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Oh my God. Patrick Swayze. Patrick Swayze. Thank you. Uh, any of those activities

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probably up to and including robbing a bank, an armed robbery.

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Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh, James might be doing right now. James is probably doing that.

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That’s his MO. And he’s taken the voice of reason with him.

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It’s gone. Uh, that’s the voice he makes when he’s flying down with paragliding.

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I actually, uh, was on a walk earlier and, uh, I stepped in a hole and,

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uh, I was worried that I had, uh, sprained my ankle, but I walked it off.

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Oh God. That’s exactly what you should do.

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That’s what’s going on. Anytime you have a sprained anything in your lower extremities,

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walk it off. No, just fact check that. It’s not true.

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We’re just seek medical attention.

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But no, I’m doing well. We, of course, are in Houston, are in the Houston area,

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where we’ll get three days where it’s kind of chilly and fun.

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And then it turns right back into 70 to… It’s going to be 80.

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I think it was supposed to be 88 today. Yeah.

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So we take our chili weather where we can. But we still call it the seasons.

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We’re in the holiday seasons. That’s what we’re calling it. But…

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That is relevant because seasons don’t look the same for every business.

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No, or even different parts of the country. That’s right.

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And so what we’re going to talk about today are some businesses that are affected

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in a busy fashion for the holidays and what businesses sometimes don’t get a lot. Yeah, yeah.

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The sad businesses, the seasonally affected disordered businesses.

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Oh, is that a thing? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Sad. Everybody can be sad in the winter.

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Speaking of what, so I went to school in Connecticut. My first,

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it was the first time I really been there when the leaves changed.

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And as we were going around, I made the comment.

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I was like, oh, wow, those leaves really changed colors.

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They look kind of like all the sweaters at Macy’s.

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Not realizing, coming from Houston, where we have nothing basically but evergreens. Right.

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Those were what they call fall colors. That’s just brown. Yeah.

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I was like, oh, I had no idea. What do you mean? What’s that yellow?

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What’s that red? I didn’t know.

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Yeah, correct. We just see green pine trees until they fall.

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Yeah. We see green pine trees until a hurricane knocks them over.

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Right. And then they’re just dead.

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Yeah. So it’s that. We see green or bark. Or bark.

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Yeah. Or, yeah, or just water, cactuses. So what businesses are,

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let’s take the sad businesses first.

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What businesses are slowing down during the holidays now that we’re past Halloween,

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so we’re well into the holidays?

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So one big one that we talked about was real estate, real estate,

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as far as home buying goes.

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So there’s a phenomenon that I think that some of us are aware of,

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which is when you work in an office and you get to November,

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December, and everyone starts taking vacation time and then there’s holidays

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and stuff, you get the dreaded,

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hey, let’s table this until the new year.

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Let’s circle back in the new year. And I feel like, I think we feel like realty

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is a big one where people are saying, this is such a big undertaking and I’m

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going to be having so many obligations.

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I don’t even want to think about this until at least January.

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Yeah, I, I, it seems interesting because I think I want to, I’m trying to reach

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back in the recesses of my cobweb mind.

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And I think I saw stats that it’s not actually as bad as kind of I think most

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of us would think it would be.

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It’s definitely not as good as right.

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Spring is the time to show your house. Yeah.

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And again, this is something that’s really affected by weather.

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If it’s dreary and overcast, that’s not the best time to sell your house.

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But that doesn’t mean that the holidays is a bad time to generate leads.

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It might be a great time to generate leads. Or build brands.

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Yeah. Right? This is the time people, you can lay the foundation now for when

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things pick up in the spring.

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Because it’s not a very long time, right? I mean, we only have a couple months

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of this before people are like, oh, yeah, it’s middle of January.

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I do need to think about this so I can get the house, put my house up,

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buy the new house and have the kids in for summer or wherever.

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Which is, it’s so interesting to think that the concept of home is so associated

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with November and December, Thanksgiving, you know, Christmas holidays,

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all the other, you know, holidays.

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And yet we’re not really procuring.

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You’re where, you know, people are just kind of holing up and wherever they

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are. Well, I mean, I, I usually get my wife a new house each Christmas,

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but I, you know, that’s just me. That’s commitment. Yeah.

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Um, if you have other experiences, let us know in the comments,

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because I’m, you know, it’s, I’m curious to see how things are changing.

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It’s a, in an industry that changes so much. Oh yeah. Uh, you never know.

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What, what other kind of things do we hold off doing in the fall,

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in the winter here in the lead up to winter? Well.

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Here in Houston, every time I see people say that they have to winterize their

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home, that is a foreign concept to me because for our homes.

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So basically, you know, we in the past couple of years, we’ve had some infrastructure

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freezing issues and stuff. Yeah, big ones.

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And we they would say, oh, you got to drip your pipes.

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And that was not something that I had ever experienced before,

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the act of opening your pipe a little bit to have it go, because all of our

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pipes are, because it rarely ever freezes.

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It’s not something that we’re used to. We don’t have basements here.

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I mean, some people have basements, but it’s not as common in houses.

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There’s a lot of home services that happen across the nation that you need to do before it gets cold.

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Right, right. And the question is, what kind of home services do we actually

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have going on when it does get cold? I don’t know.

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And before it gets cold and before you get busy.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think that it’s the lack of time because there’s so much that

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goes on. There’s so many parties.

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There’s friends that you need to see. You feel like you’re trying to wrap all

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that up. Of course, like you mentioned, people are taking time off.

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They’re doing vacation, so they have more time and they want to spend it.

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They don’t want to spend it waiting for their new roof to get installed.

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Yeah. Especially when they have friends and family coming over.

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Now, there is a little bit of

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run up to things like Thanksgiving where I’m trying to get my house ready.

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But that’s not usually where people are spending, trying to do huge amounts of things.

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It’s just clean up, pick up the kids stuff, maybe buy that extra platter, whatever it is.

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So home services, I think it’s great.

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I think it’s probably great. A lot like even here, we subscribe to an HVAC service

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team that comes out and they inspect our heater.

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So that’s probably good work.

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Unless it actually breaks. That’s the other thing about living in Houston is

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that, uh, like the mold situation and like in people’s ACs in other places,

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because you run the heat, uh,

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more often that’s supposedly that sanitizes the mold.

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And because here you might not run the heat all year, uh, we’re more perceptible

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to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know.

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Uh, I think the other thing that happens is, uh, it’s the end of the year.

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We’re in a consumer mode, right? We’re buying gifts.

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You guys are probably looking for something fantastic. If you want to know my

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personal list, I will be more than happy to post it so that everybody can find

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it and get me just the best gift, whatever you think.

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Anything off the list above the $500 mark.

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But because we’re in a buying mode, we’re not in a savings mode.

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And guess who wants you to save?

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Your CFP, your financial planner. Yeah, financial services.

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It’s hard. What’s so interesting, kind of like our food consumption,

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it will go 180 degrees in January.

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Here’s my new resolution. I’m going to get fit and I’m going to start saving.

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And, uh, they, we don’t think about that at all during November. Nope.

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Nope. Why would you? But as we said before, it’s still a great time to reach out.

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Uh, because even though, you know, the, the marketing funnel of having people,

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you know, moving through that tube is a real thing where let’s say they are

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ready to make a decision in January.

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They still need to be in that funnel ready to be in that point.

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So, yeah, maybe there’s not a lot of conversion that happens,

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but it is a good time to load up that funnel.

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Well, and I mean, just like exercise, those are always, they feel like snap decisions.

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It feels like on January whatever, I decide I’m joining this gym.

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I don’t join that gym because on the third, I saw the gym.

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It’s because I had seen the gym all throughout November, December.

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Somebody was reminding me. Maybe I even got an email. I expressed some interest,

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whatever it was. And then I decide I’m going to pull the trigger.

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So you want to be the person, you want to be the target that they are aiming

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at when they pull the trigger. Yeah.

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Hey, quiz. How many times does someone need to see an ad before they’re ready

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to convert? Oh, good Lord.

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Or before it even registers. Yeah. So, you know, they had, they used to speak.

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I think we were talking in another episode about Mad Men.

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That back in the old advertising days, it was that they had the rule of seven.

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And I, you know, I think the studies I’ve seen now, it’s not. It’s like 23.

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Yeah. Yeah, it’s a crazy amount of times, especially depending on the format of the ad. Yeah.

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But that’s good news. That means you can spend November and December getting

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22 impressions. That’s right.

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So that that 23rd one in January is the thing that has that conversion.

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So, yeah, not as busy, but still a time for growth. Absolutely.

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Lay the foundation. Absolutely. So those are the ones that are not associated

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with… The sad ones. The sad ones. Yes.

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What are the ones that are present in a time of gladness?

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I’m going to preempt you there. Please. I’m going to ask you what category maybe

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splits it depending on where they are in the country. I don’t know.

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I would guess maybe car wash. I think you’re right. We think car wash.

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The reasoning for this, like we said before, regionally, we are in Texas.

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And so, you know, we’re not getting a lot of snow. Or almost none. Or as none.

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We do get rain. And so if it’s raining a lot, it might not do it.

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But there’s a lot of travel that goes on. There’s a lot of driving.

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I’m expected to drive to Dallas, to Austin, to San Antonio every weekend.

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And you want to not only make sure your car looks good, but make sure that it’s in running order.

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So I can imagine that for a lot of people, maybe that car takes a break.

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And for other people, that car is moving a lot. Yeah, yeah.

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If you live in, you know, if you live in upstate New York,

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Troy, and you’re just starting that six months of overcast gray with good precipitation,

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you’re probably not washing your car that often.

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Uh, but down here we get a lot, we do get some storms. We get a little gook

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on the road, all that stuff.

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We’re driving more. We notice it more. So they really, they have a foot in each,

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in whatever, in each category.

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In sad and glad. Yeah. In sad and glad. Yes. Uh, now. All right.

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Now glad. The big one. Yeah.

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Obviously is food. Yeah. Oh yeah.

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Uh, so this year I just don’t know. I normally drive to a, um,

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family thing for Thanksgiving this year.

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My mom had a knee replacement so she can’t go anywhere so I’m just going to

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go have Thanksgiving with her so it’s just me and her and in my mind I’m thinking

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like alright well I’m not going to be making a bunch of Thanksgiving food for

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just two Have you ever made a complete turkey dinner?

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Yes I have I really like to cook and so the idea of cooking sounds fun but the idea of making.

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Uh, 50 pounds of food for two people is like, and so in my mind,

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I’m thinking like, oh yeah, what are all these places?

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I know that Popeye’s, they’ve got a pre-made, uh, like Turkey or whatever.

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Uh, there’s some places near my house that I’ve seen that they have,

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uh, you know, pre-made stuff.

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So I’m already thinking about that because my circumstances,

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like, where am I going to spend that money, uh, right off the bat? Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, and if you’re a business owner in one of those, you know this is

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what’s becoming the busy time. People are out shopping.

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They’re taking their lunch breaks to shop. And so rather they’re going to spend

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the time to make their meal or they’re just going to grab something on the go.

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So many parties, so many events. You know that this is a good time for you,

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and it’s time to really hammer that home.

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Uh, the, the thing about it, I, I like to think about it and I like to think

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about marketing this way in general is let’s not be passive about it.

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Okay. So we can, yeah, it’s nice. We’re getting the bump. It’s nice.

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People are coming to my restaurant more often.

00:15:41.585 –> 00:15:46.865
What’s even nicer if they come to my restaurant more often than they do somebody else’s.

00:15:46.965 –> 00:15:50.705
And so those loyalty programs, getting the word out, hitting them up,

00:15:51.145 –> 00:15:56.745
getting that one extra visit, if you could get two, maybe three visits extra

00:15:56.745 –> 00:16:01.385
in the next two months, that’s a huge impact to your top line and bottom line.

00:16:01.645 –> 00:16:04.925
Yeah. And think of it this way. Like I said, you know, I’m, I’m in the buying

00:16:04.925 –> 00:16:10.605
phase where I’m looking at four different restaurants that I’m like,

00:16:10.685 –> 00:16:15.365
all right, which, um, what’s their pre-made meal situation going to be?

00:16:16.505 –> 00:16:20.385
I’m going to submit my information to all four restaurants.

00:16:20.785 –> 00:16:25.425
So just like before we were talking about real estate, even.

00:16:26.525 –> 00:16:32.665
If someone doesn’t pick your restaurant, this is a perfect time to get them in your marketing.

00:16:33.045 –> 00:16:37.085
Do you have emails going out? Do you have SMSs going out? Because I for sure,

00:16:37.405 –> 00:16:42.725
even if I don’t pick that one, I’m going to give them my info and I’m going to get updates about it.

00:16:42.865 –> 00:16:49.825
So this is regardless of the actual conversion sale, this is a awesome time

00:16:49.825 –> 00:16:52.825
to actually market and build that audience.

00:16:52.825 –> 00:16:58.405
And I think for indoor media’s restaurant customers, particularly fast,

00:16:58.525 –> 00:17:02.805
casual and quick serve restaurants,

00:17:03.745 –> 00:17:09.805
having an offer, having a discount is such a relief when we’re in this mode

00:17:09.805 –> 00:17:13.425
of spend, spend, spend, spend during the holiday season. Yeah.

00:17:14.385 –> 00:17:18.365
Getting $5 off of 20 or whatever, you know, a BOGO, whatever it might be.

00:17:18.485 –> 00:17:22.105
It just, it’s like, oh, thank God I don’t have to pay full price for this.

00:17:22.105 –> 00:17:23.905
I get a little break. That’s so nice.

00:17:24.985 –> 00:17:29.365
You’ve seen Miracle on 34th Street? Of course. Both versions, old and new.

00:17:29.725 –> 00:17:32.565
Trash Park and black and white. Yes, yes.

00:17:32.705 –> 00:17:38.205
So the new one still has one of my favorite quotes where when Kris Kringle sends

00:17:38.205 –> 00:17:40.465
this woman to another store,

00:17:40.625 –> 00:17:46.565
to the other store because the price is cheaper, she goes up to the manager

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and says, if your Santa is willing to send me to another store and put my priorities

00:17:53.525 –> 00:17:54.905
over the almighty dollar,

00:17:55.145 –> 00:17:57.585
I am coming here for everything but my groceries.

00:17:58.825 –> 00:18:01.925
That’s why people feel. That discount is real.

00:18:02.665 –> 00:18:08.785
It doesn’t even have to be much, just a little token. Yeah. Offer. Code. Yeah.

00:18:09.664 –> 00:18:14.844
Who, who else, who else, who’s getting, who’s, when, when do we get something out of the closet maybe?

00:18:14.864 –> 00:18:19.164
Well, I will say we’ve got one more big one and that is dry cleaning.

00:18:20.024 –> 00:18:24.904
You’ve got swanky office parties where you have to look good.

00:18:25.004 –> 00:18:26.464
You have to look better than everyone else.

00:18:27.824 –> 00:18:31.044
You’ve got. Don’t judge much. Ooh. Just kidding.

00:18:31.484 –> 00:18:35.864
Yeah. Just kidding. Now you, you’ve got office parties.

00:18:36.064 –> 00:18:41.684
You’ve got family parties. Um, maybe, you know, in, for one party,

00:18:41.904 –> 00:18:44.524
you might need an overcoat. You haven’t worn another party.

00:18:44.784 –> 00:18:51.904
You might need a snazzy blazer that you haven’t worn, uh, and all year and you don’t want it to smell.

00:18:52.024 –> 00:18:57.244
So here, and here’s the thing, especially with my wife, uh, why it makes a difference

00:18:57.244 –> 00:19:01.344
is as the seasons change, that’s when she gets stuff dry cleaned.

00:19:01.524 –> 00:19:07.124
So she’s like, oh, I’m done with my summer stuff. I’m into fall fully or whatever.

00:19:07.764 –> 00:19:10.464
That’s when we get summer stuff dry cleaned. Cause we’re like,

00:19:10.564 –> 00:19:12.824
we’re not going to do it all the time.

00:19:13.024 –> 00:19:16.184
You know, maybe she can get three wearings out of something.

00:19:16.444 –> 00:19:19.464
She doesn’t smell. I’m not saying that. I’m just saying like,

00:19:19.584 –> 00:19:21.424
don’t look at me that way. She smells great. She smells great.

00:19:21.564 –> 00:19:25.724
I mean, it’s a lot of perfume, but it smells great. But if we get stuff.

00:19:26.588 –> 00:19:32.568
Kim. Anyway, I need to back up. I’m going to back. Beep, beep, beep.

00:19:32.848 –> 00:19:37.328
We’ll edit this. Yeah. Okay. So at any rate, you know, I think it’s important

00:19:37.328 –> 00:19:40.188
that, or I don’t think it’s just something that happens.

00:19:40.288 –> 00:19:43.428
You do that transition. You’re like, I’m going to put this away for three months

00:19:43.428 –> 00:19:47.048
or four in Houston. It’s probably two weeks until it gets hot again.

00:19:47.288 –> 00:19:51.888
But she’s going to put this way, get it all dry cleaned, get it set up. For sure.

00:19:52.268 –> 00:19:57.028
Uh, especially so, you know, we, I just dry and clean something for,

00:19:57.028 –> 00:20:01.548
uh, Halloween, uh, uh, and costume, my, my Halloween costume.

00:20:01.808 –> 00:20:06.128
Uh, and then now we’ve got Thanksgiving coming up and then we’ve got,

00:20:06.208 –> 00:20:07.168
and you’ll need that costume.

00:20:07.168 –> 00:20:10.128
Exactly than you know christmas new

00:20:10.128 –> 00:20:13.348
year’s all the other holidays and so uh there’s a

00:20:13.348 –> 00:20:19.008
lot of instances and a lot of touch points that are welcome and natural for

00:20:19.008 –> 00:20:25.508
us to hammer on over the holidays that’s why it’s i mean it’s a well-known uh

00:20:25.508 –> 00:20:32.628
fact but we as marketers and as local business owners, uh,

00:20:33.188 –> 00:20:37.088
need to utilize that not as, oh yeah, I need to do this, but as,

00:20:37.248 –> 00:20:43.428
oh, that my future customer is looking for help for this specific thing. Yeah.

00:20:43.768 –> 00:20:47.448
There’s some people that aren’t, but there’s tons that are, and this is the

00:20:47.448 –> 00:20:48.648
time to introduce ourselves.

00:20:51.994 –> 00:20:57.014
All right. You’re good. This is the time to introduce ourselves as local businesses

00:20:57.014 –> 00:21:00.474
and say, hey, this is what I’m about. This is our story.

00:21:00.674 –> 00:21:04.314
This is what makes us unique compared to anyone else in this area.

00:21:04.894 –> 00:21:09.334
And this is why we’re going to have a relationship in the future. Yeah.

00:21:09.514 –> 00:21:13.634
So we want to hear from you about your seasonal experience.

00:21:14.034 –> 00:21:18.914
We want to know what’s working, what’s not, what’s exciting. Are we full of it?

00:21:19.614 –> 00:21:22.894
We always like to know that. Yeah, please. I mean, you know,

00:21:23.034 –> 00:21:27.174
it’s just two guys here pontificating and, you know, whatever,

00:21:27.274 –> 00:21:28.394
going back to the Pope’s hat.

00:21:29.194 –> 00:21:34.254
Is that where that comes from? Oh my gosh, I just realized that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:35.514 –> 00:21:39.774
So remember, if you got nothing out of this, you did get a word of the day, pontification.

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